Talking in selenium conference

Recently I’ve had the amazing opportunity to present in none other that Selenium conference in India. Even though I have done some other talks in the past, this was a big challenge.

I would like to share my experience, for those lynx curious about talking in or attending to conferences.

1) Submitting proposals:

The power of a deadline can sometimes be very impressive…at least for me.

I was keeping a couple of proposals for things I wanted to share for quite a while, always postponing to actually sit down and properly write them.

However, when I received a message stating that the last call for proposals for the selenium conference was in a couple of days, I told to myself: “hey, nothing to lose, just write them down and send them on before is too late. Let’s just get out of our comfort zone!”

2) Getting accepted and preparing for the conference:

After submitting the ideas, I’ve gotten contacted for one of my proposal asking for more details. There was some exchange of communications and after that…silence… nothing. I’ve gotten no idea if they were happy with my replies at all.

A few days later, I received an email. Bad news: my proposal was not accepted. I was shocked, after so many messages, I thought they would have been interested on it. Luckily they provided a rejection reason: “We’ve already accepted another proposals from the same speaker”.

Really?? I suddenly remembered: I did send two proposals. And right after that, I realised I was accepted to speak in THE selenium conference… and I started to freak out. What now?


I took a deep breath.

I reviewed the published list of speakers and then I realised that I had the pleasure of having met one of them before: Maaret Pyhajarvi. I brace myself, took all my courage and decided that if I was going to speak in the conference, I should be able to reach out for help.

I was very lucky that she was very nice and helpful. We arranged some online meetings (which was not easy because of the time difference) and she gave me plenty of valuable advice. I’m so happy that I asked Maaret for help and so grateful for her advice. I highly recommend that you watch her presentation and lightning talks, they were absolutely brilliant and inspiring.

OK, what else can I do to prepare for the day? (Besides planning and creating the slides and content, which is easier said than done)

As I was talking about virtual reality, I thought it was only fair to create an app for practising. So I asked the organisers for some pictures of the room I would present on and I created it on VR, even adding some original murmuring sounds. If you are interested, it’s uploaded here.

3) Travelling to India. Getting around. Impressions:

One of the reasons for me to apply for the selenium conference in India was that I was, at the time, located in China, so it was very close. I didn’t need many days off, the trip is shorter and it also was fully covered by the conference. Also, I’ve never been in India, great excuse to visit it!

I was told to first book the trip and then request reimbursement. They actually helped me to pick a better flight that was also a bit cheaper, and they dealt with the currency exchange. I am thankful for the organisers to help so much with this.

They also booked me in the hotel where the conference was taking place and arrange a car to collect me from and to the airport. I didn’t know how useful this would be until I arrived there. I would have had no idea about how to get to the hotel once there, so once again: so grateful for this.

I didn’t have time to travel a lot, just meet with the other speakers for food. That said, it seemed that Bangalore didn’t have much to see within the city but if you go a bit outside you can visit places. Unfortunately I didn’t have time for this , so my opinion about India can’t really count much from this trip. I’m going to have to go back for a better impression ūüėä

4) Impressions on the selenium conference:

I feel it was well organised, food was delicious (although I did get sick coming back home, but apparently this could happen during your first days in India for what I’ve heard).

I didn’t have much time to see all the talks, but I’ve watched some of the videos afterwards. I feel there was a good balance of speakers and that people should take into account the levels explained on the descriptions.

It was a pity that I was not able to attend to all the talks, but it is OK because of the recordings. I also felt pressured because I was presenting, so I’m happy I presented early enough and I could relax afterwards.

I really enjoyed it overall, it was a great experience and amazing opportunity for networking. All the speakers were very approachable, which I think it’s one of the biggest values of attending a conference.

5) The presentation. Self-feedback. Lighting talks.

What you are about to read now is a series of self-improvement tips, because, as a good Lynx, I am always learning. I am writing them more for myself than for you, but maybe this could help you too, if you ever consider presenting anything.

Looking back, I wish I reviewed much more and I trusted my own experience of needing more content than what it seems enough when practising. I felt it ended up being a bit short. Learning: prepare extra content and practice a lot.

For some reason (probably the fact that it was THE SELENIUM conference) I was as nervous as if it was my first conference ever. Learning: breathe slow, try relaxation techniques before the talk.

I wish I would have kept it more natural, after the matter I came up with more ideas to break the tension with the audience, but before that I didn’t know how to do it. Learning: get information about audience and think of how to break tension with them and make the content more interesting.

I wasn’t so sure about the content: it was a beginner talk but because it was very generic I could not go deep in any of the testing types… I wish now I would have spent longer in some of them or done some demo. However, I was relying in the questions to go a bit deeper…shockingly, there were not many questions. I think it could be a cultural thing because other presenters told me that the same happened to them as well. Learning: keep only 5 minutes for questions and show more technical bits. Talk about what you think it is important instead of waiting for them to ask.

I did blank out and forgot many many things I was meant to say. I took my safety notes with me but yet I lost my way throughout. This was what I was most scared of. Learning: slow down, move the notes as I go along. Have notes on the laptop, not only paper, it looks more natural to look in there.

Performance: muy accent didn’t come up clean. I should pursue to speak slower. I also looked and sounded tired, I was. I should try to get better sleep before the presentation day. Learning: just before the presentation, get as much sleep as possible. Travel earlier to avoid jet-lag. Record yourself to check if the pronunciation¬†is correct or you need to change some words.

The lights were not the best – neither my shirt nor my slides matched with the background and projector. Learning: bring spare clothes and presentation with two background colours and try them before the meeting.

Video: it started late, my introduction was not recorded. I didn’t know I wasn’t supposed to move and I disappear every so often. Learning: Ask video person to record a short video and let you see it. Ask if you can move around or better stay in one place.

Luckily I could make up a bit during the lighting talks, in which I seem more like myself. But, unfortunately, not many people attended and it’s not part of the video of the talk.

6) Conclusion

Even though I feel I could have done much better, I enjoyed the entire experience a lot. I learned plenty from it and I will be much more prepared for the next one.

If you attended or have watched the video, you might be interested on knowing more about a project that I mentioned I am working on…but that’s, well, another story.


Hands on: automating scratch with AirtestIDE

On one of my firsts posts in this blog, I went through a hands on about how to automate scratch. The goal was to be able to teach kids how to test, hand by hand with how to develop programs.

Back at the time, the only program that I could find that would allow me to do this automation was not open source. The experience was very nice but since the goal was to use it on coderdojo , the conclusion was that it would not work out to use a paid solution.

Currently, I’m part of the development team on an open source project called ‘Airtest‘. Please note the intention on this post is not to advertise this product, but to provide a different solution that could actually be used in coderdojo. However, I want to disclaim it clearly: I work on this project, also, I am very fond of it.

Part 1: scratch development

Scratch is a simple tool for getting started with developing just it by dragging and dropping easy sentences. I’ve already explained how to create an app with scratch in my previous post, so I am going to assume you know how to do this.

Let’s just use the project that I created as example:

This program moves a cat (called sprite) 10 pixels every time the user clicks on it. If it reaches a corner it supposes to bounce. The goal is to verify that the cat bounces when reached the corner.

Part 2: Using Airtest project to automate scratch

    1. Go to the official website:¬† and download Airtest IDE. (Note: it is possible that you see some Chinese around as we are based in China, but don’t get too scared, everything should also be written in English)
    2. Click on “File” -> “New” -> “.air Airtest Project”,¬† to create a new airtest test file1
    3. Make sure you have “Selenium window” options active by clicking “Window”->”Selenium Window” (you can close Airtest assistance, Poco Assistance and devices).¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† 2
    4. You also want to make sure you have your Chrome path configured in “Options”->”Settings”. If you have Chrome installed and are using Windows, this is generally under C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Chrome/Application/chrome.exe 3
    5. Make sure your cursor is at the bottom of the script editor.¬† Then, click on the globe icon at the top left of the “Selenium Window” to open a browser for test.4
    6. Click “Yes” on the yellow message that appears on the top. 5Now you could continue with the recording method (right hand side top button on the Selenium Window). However, since scratch is done in flash, we won’t be able to retrieve a selenium element. we would proceed with Visual testing.
    7. Make sure your cursor is at the bottom of the script editor. Click the “start_web” button and input the url in the quoted yellow text. 6 It would look like this:
    8. Make sure your cursor is at the bottom of the script editor. Click the “airtest_touch” button and select the flag so it is within the highlighted rectangle. Double click inside it to confirm the selection¬† 7
    9. Insert a this piece of code (this is a loop to repeat the next sentence 30 times, which would be the cat click):
       for x in range(0, 30): 
    10. Make sure your cursor is at the bottom of the script editor. Click tab once. Click the “airtest_touch” button and select the cat. Double click to confirm the selection. Your code should look like this (I have added a sleep command to wait for the elements but it should not be needed): 8
    11. Click play to see how the program works (make sure to activate flash on the browser for the program to load the first time). Feel free of getting some snack while your computer does your job for you ūüėČ
    12. Bonus step: verify that the cats bounces. You can do this by inserting an “assert_template” and selecting the cat (same as with airtest_touch). However, the program would pass if it finds a cat, in any position, so even if it is upside down. Alternatively, you can create a snapshot to check manually this part.


Since Airtest project’s back-end (poco) is based on Python (a programming language) you can insert loops and other instructions easily.

Because of its powerful IDE which allows for record/playback or the use of simple buttons, it is easy for beginners.

Since visual testing is possible, even within a Selenium test, it works with programs or websites in which object hierarchy (DOM) is not easy/possible to retrieve (such as flash applications).

Because it is open source and the IDE is free, it can be used in teaching.

There is much, much more that this one tool can do that what is shown here.¬†However, that is… well, another story.

Automating test case decision (using AI in testing part I)

1. The problem (and possible actions):

While testing, we need to decide carefully what test cases we will create, maintain, remove and execute per deployment.

Imagine that you join a company and get handled over a long list of test cases. You know absolutely nothing about them and you need to decide which ones to use for production (you have a time restriction of 10 minutes to execute them). What would you do?

  1. Try to understand which of the existing tests are needed and decide manually which ones to run:
    1. Check the priority of these test cases. Unfortunately, not many people review the priority of the test cases, so you can have obsolete test cases that are still marked as high priority but might be covered by other tests or the original functionality no longer be in place.
    2. Check the creation date. However, sometimes, an old test case might still make sense or be important.
    3. Ask the existing testers. Although, sometimes they have moved out of the company by the time you join and if not, things change so quickly that they might not be able to help anymore.
  2. Scrap it all and start over. I think this is a drastic solution, it might work out, but you might be wasting time re-doing something that might already be working fine.
    1. You could decide to just test the latest feature and not do any regression (trusting that the system was well enough tested before)
  3. Spend days learning about the features, executing all the test cases and figuring out what tests what and which tests you need to re-do. It’s a very analytic approach, but you are not likely to have the time for this, even if you have a lot of resources to execute them in parallel (which you should try to do). Also, maybe you need to refactor some of them, so you still need to do a selection.
    1. You could decide to leave comprehensive test for after deployment and only focus on a small set of features before that.
    2. You could do the deployments at hours where the load is small and do them more often (although this is generally painful for the team)
  4. Use new technologies to figure out which test cases to run (for example AI).
  5. Mix and match: Implementing point 4 on its own could be tricky. The best would be to mix it out with the others, analyzing and reviewing test cases, selecting higher current priorities, executing them in parallel to verify the percentage of success, eliminating test cases that don’t make sense anymore or that constantly fail…

As lynx, we are curious animals and we tend to ask many questions to understand the system. For example, some of the questions you could ask are:

  • How often are the iterations of the projects? If there are fast iterations, chances are that old test cases are not needed anymore.
  • How long do we have to verify a build?
  • Are the technologies from development changing? If they are, it would be a good moment to change on testing too, and point 4 could be a good solution here. I think it’s always good to have similar technologies between development and testing so both teams feel aligned and can help each other in a better way.
  • Do you have available testers in the company to whom to ask about the recent features and tests? If so, you can start with 3 adding up to 1 and 2 (so you don’t bother people with silly questions).
  • Is priority aligned within the company? Is priority per build or per feature? Is there a clear list of features per build? Is there a clear way of tracking which old features might be affected by the new ones?

It’s important is to balance well the test cases to get as many defects as possible and as early as possible, and also to ensure there is no overhead on the process.

Some tests can create false failures or be not reliable. Also, I’d like to highlight that sometimes writing tests takes too long or needs too many resources and some testers would write those test for the sake of ticking the “automated” box. That is not a good practice, be careful with these.

2. Understanding the process (how do we test)

Every time we want to automate anything (in this case we want to automate human decisions), we need to think about the manual way of doing it: When, as human, we decide which test cases to execute, what are we basing our decisions on? We want to check priority (of test cases and feature) and creation date. We might also take into account the severity of the test and feature (how costly would it be to fix a defect related with those). Another thing could be to look at previous runs and check how many times has this test case been failing or how many defects have raised already.

Note that the measures themselves are also estimated ‚Äď it is important to have a good process in terms of the estimation. The first thing is to clean up the test cases and the system (process) itself. Having good documentation around when something is considered high priority or high severity could help out when aligning the system across the team or the company.

The second thing we need to do for automating tests decision is to decide which variables we are going to take into account for our system. Some of the above mentioned could actually measure the same thing. Having a short and clear number of variables is essential in order to build a correct system, since the more variables the more complicated the system would be and the longer it would take for it to make decisions.

An example or two variables that could be measuring the same thing could be the priority of the test case and the priority of the feature, if the system is well assigned.

There are tools and algorithms thought to identify automatically which variables are actually more important for the data or what sort of relationship there are among them, as this is sometimes not obvious for a human. Just have this in mind when creating your system (as this is usually topic 1 in any machine learning related book).

3. What’s AI

In order to automate these decisions, we could make use of one of the technologies that is being trending recently because of the new systems being able to compute it faster and the creation of better algorithms: Artificial intelligence.

According to Arthur Samuel in 1959, Artificial intelligence gives “computers the ability to learn without being explicitly programmed.”

Artificial intelligence is a big area, and there are many ways we could use it to help with testing.

Note also, that this is not a simple topic and there are many people who have dedicated their entire careers to artificial intelligence. However, I am simplifying it as much as possible since I’m taking this as an introduction and overview.

For this story, I am going to focus in using artificial intelligence to decide among test cases. I found two interesting ways of doing this. The first one is called “rule based system”.

4. Rule based system:

A rule based system is a way to store and manipulate knowledge to interpret information in a useful way. For us, we would like to use fixed rules in order to get an automatic decision of if we want to execute our test case or not. Imagine this as if you wanted to teach it to a newbie who needed your logic to be written down in notes.

For example: If risk is low and priority is low and test case has run at least once before, then do not run the test case. This rule would not act on its own, but mixed with a long list of rules written in this style (which is related to logic programming, in case you want to learn more about it). The group of rules is called “knowledge base”.

In this system, there is no automatic inference of the rules (which means that they are given by a human and the machine does not guess them). But there are some cycles that the machine goes through in order to make a final decision:

  1. Match: The first phase would try to match all the possible rules with each test case creating a conflict set with all satisfied rules.
  2. Conflict-Resolution: One of the possible rules is chosen for execution for that test case. If no rules are satisfied, the interpreter halts.
  3. Act: We mark the test cases as execute or not execute. We then execute and can return to 1 as the action have changed the property of the tests (last executed, passed or failed…)


5. Fuzzy logic – hands on:

If you ask experts to define things like ‘high priority’, ‘new test case’ or ‘medium risk’, they probably will not agree among them. They can agree that a test case is important, but when exactly are they marking it with priority 3 or 2 or 1 (depending on your project’s scale) would be a bit more difficult to explain.

In a fuzzy system, such as our, we define things with percentages and probabilities.  If we gather the information of the particular definitions for a variable, we will find it follows a specific function, such a trapezoid, triangle or Gaussian.

Imagine that we asked a lot of experts and come up with the example below:

Let’s define ‘low’ as a trapezoidal function starting on the edge (minimum value) and travelling to 20 and 40.

‘Medium’ would be the same function on the points 20, 40, 60, 80 (note that they overlap)

‘High’ shall be 60, 80 and maximum value.

The graph would represent our system as such:


If we decide on the variables (for example ‘priority’) and definitions (also called labels, for example, ‘low’), the functions that compose those labels (as the graph above) and the rules among the variables, we should be able to implement a system that would decide for us if we should run a test or if it is safe to go without it. Let’s do so!

After a bit digging for a good C# library to implement this sort of things (maybe using F# would have been easier), I came across: which seems to be a good library for many AI related implementations. We can install its NuGet Package with visual studio.

The first thing we need to do is define a fuzzy database to keep all these definitions:

Database fdb = new Database();

Then we need to¬†create linguistic variables representing the variables we want to use in our system. In our case, we want to look at priority, risk, novelty of test case and pass-failure rate. Finally, we will like to define a linguistic variable to store the result, that we are calling ‘mark execute’.

 LinguisticVariable priority = new LinguisticVariable("Priority", 0, 100);
 LinguisticVariable risk = new LinguisticVariable("Risk", 0, 100);
 LinguisticVariable isNew = new LinguisticVariable("IsNew", 0, 100);
 LinguisticVariable isPassing = new LinguisticVariable("IsPassing", 0, 100);
 LinguisticVariable shouldExecute = new LinguisticVariable("MarkExecute", 0, 100);
// note on the last one that the name of the variable does not have to match the name for the rule,
//      which is the string literal that we are assigning it

After that, we define the linguistic labels (fuzzy sets) that compose above variables. For that, we need to define their functions.

For demonstrative purposes, let’s say that we have the same definitions for low, medium and high for priority and risk. For novelty, pass rate and mark execute, we are going to define a yes/no trapezoidal function. Note that we cannot use ‘no’ as it is a ‘reserved word’ for the rule specifications (more below), so we would call it ‘DoNot’. The yes/no function graph that we are using looks like this:


// defining low - medium - high functions
TrapezoidalFunction function1 = new TrapezoidalFunction(20, 40, TrapezoidalFunction.EdgeType.Right);
FuzzySet low = new FuzzySet("Low", function1);
TrapezoidalFunction function2 = new TrapezoidalFunction(20, 40, 60, 80);
FuzzySet medium = new FuzzySet("Medium", function2);
TrapezoidalFunction function3 = new TrapezoidalFunction(60, 80, TrapezoidalFunction.EdgeType.Left);
FuzzySet high = new FuzzySet("High", function3);

// adding the labels to the variables priority and risk

// defining yes and no functions
TrapezoidalFunction function4 = new TrapezoidalFunction(10, 50, TrapezoidalFunction.EdgeType.Right);
FuzzySet no = new FuzzySet("DoNot", function4);
TrapezoidalFunction function5 = new TrapezoidalFunction(50, 90, TrapezoidalFunction.EdgeType.Left);
FuzzySet yes = new FuzzySet("Yes", function5);

// adding the labels to novelty (isNew), pass rate (isPassing) and markExecute (shouldExecute)




// Lastly we add the variables with the labels already assigned to the fuzzy database defined above


That was a bit long, still with me? We are almost done.

We have defined the system, but we still need to create the rules. Next step is creating the inference system and assigning some rules.

Note that for this implementation the rules are not weighted. We can make it a bit more specific (and complicated) assigning weight to the rules to denote their importance.

Also, note that these rules are defined in plain English, making it easier for the experts and other players on the project to contribute to them.

InferenceSystem IS = new InferenceSystem(fdb, new CentroidDefuzzifier(1000));

// We are defining 6 rules as example, but we should take them from experts on the particular system. The rules don't necessarily need to work out for every system.
IS.NewRule("Rule 1", "IF Risk IS Low THEN MarkExecute IS DoNot");
IS.NewRule("Rule 2", "IF Priority IS High OR Risk IS High THEN MarkExecute IS Yes");
IS.NewRule("Rule 3", "IF Priority IS Medium AND IsPassing IS Yes then MarkExecute IS Yes");
IS.NewRule("Rule 4", "IF Risk IS Medium AND IsPassing IS DoNot THEN MarkExecute IS Yes");
IS.NewRule("Rule 5", "IF Priority IS Low AND IsPassing IS Yes THEN MarkExecute IS DoNot");
IS.NewRule("Rule 6", "IF IsNew IS Yes THEN MarkExecute IS Yes");

Finally, we need to set the actual inputs or values from the tests. The ideal scenario would be that we retrieve them from a file. We could automate the extraction of the variables of our tests into this file from our test case database.

For this example we are typing the values directly. Let’s think of¬†a test case with low priority (20% low), low risk, quite new (is 90% new) and with low passing rate (since it is new, that makes sense). This would be defined as this:

IS.SetInput("Priority", 20);
IS.SetInput("Risk", 20);
IS.SetInput("IsNew", 90);
IS.SetInput("IsPassing", 10);

If we want to define a test case with high priority and risk, old and with high passing rate, the variables would look something like this:

 IS.SetInput("Priority", 90);
 IS.SetInput("Risk", 90);
 IS.SetInput("IsNew", 10);
 IS.SetInput("IsPassing", 90);

For now, let’s get the outputs directly on the console. It would look like this:

float newTC = IS.Evaluate("MarkExecute");
catch (Exception e)
Console.WriteLine("Exception found: " + e.Message);

The result of passing the first test case to this system is that we should execute it with 49.9% of security and for the second we get 82.8%.

After playing around for a while with this particular set of rules, I’d say that the system is a bit pessimistic and plays a bit too safe. It’s hard to get values under 50% (which we could assume it’s safe not to execute those test cases).

6. Rule based system – conclusions:

  • An expert / experts are needed to specify all the rules (we might influence the system. In the example above, I’m making the system too safe)
  • These rules won‚Äôt automatically change and adapt; we need to add new rules if the situation changes
  • The rules are hard to define: shall we always run all the cases when risk is high and feature is old?
  • Fuzzy definitions and fuzzy results make the system a bit complicated to understand and, again, to define
  • There could be relationships between the variables that are not obvious to us
  • We need to parse the test case variables in order for them to make sense in the system (a bit more of automation)

The problem about a human deciding the rules and the variables is that some of these variables could be measuring the same things or relate to each other without it being obvious to us.

An example could be: when a feature is new and the risk is high there might be a low probability of the test case to fail, so we might not need to execute it. This could happen because, knowing that the risk is high, developers might put more efforts on the code. (Note: This is hypothetical, not necessarily the case)

That is why, while it is important to analyse as many variables as possible, we still need to get a compromise and try not to fall on these cases, for which we need the experts… or a system to discover automatically the importance of the variables. But this is…well…another story.



Virtual Reality start pack (and VR Udacity nanodegree experience)

If you are a regular reader of my blog, you are likely to expect a testing story. This is not exactly such, but have some patience, as I will link it with testing in upcoming posts.

Virtual reality is a field I was always curious about, from when I was a little lynx, before it was even possible to bring it to the users (as the devices were not quite portable back then).

On the other hand, I was looking to do a nanodegree course from Udacity to learn something new and keep myself updated. When you are working as a developer for a while (especially developers in test) you need to keep up to date. I once heard a feedback about a candidate that was interviewed by some friends, that he did not really have 10 years of experience, but he had a repeated 1 year of experience in a loop of 10, and this can easily happen to anybody. To avoid this, what I do and I recommend doing is: keep learning new stuff.

And so, I decided to course the VR nanodegree course in Udacity.

Advises if you are considering VR nanodegree course:

The first thing you need to know about virtual reality is that you will need a device for it, otherwise you won’t be able to test anything you do.

The second thing you need to know about VR: if you want to work in multiple platforms, you also need multiple devices. This might seem obvious for you, but most of the current technologies (think about mobile, for example) have emulators to be able to deploy and test in different devices. However, for VR this is not there yet (as for the time I’m writing this article and my knowledge).

So, if you are planning in getting into the nanodegree course and into actual VR development, get ready to purchase an HTC vibe or an Oculus Rift, unless you are lucky enough to be able to borrow one or unless you prefer to take the speciality about cinematics and 360 recording. I ended up picking this speciality. Not that I did not want to spend the money on a VR cool device that would allow me to also play cool games, but I have recently moved countries (and continents, in fact) and I did not want to carry much stuff with me around.

One more thing to take into account: VR devices might come with minimum computer’s specifications, so you might also need to update your computer in order for the device to work properly.

Lucky for us, in VR we can also develop for mobile, which only requires a cheap device in which to connect your phone (and you could even build your own one). You can’t do as many things as if you also have hands controllers and body movement detectors, but you can still do some cool things. For the nanodegree first modules, this is all you need and the course provides a cardboard to the students (which is great because it has a clicking option and some other devices don’t have this one)

However, there is another thing that you could also get stuck with, although I think there are some workarounds but it would at least slow you down: you cannot directly develop for IOS phone from a windows device, you should do it from a MAC.

In terms of content, I would advise you to be interested in multimedia and gaming if you decide to go through the course.

Feelings about the course itself

I actually really enjoyed the course (except for the speciality that I was forced to course because of lack of devices). I think the content is quite good and the projects are challenging and open for creativity.

It’s also great to network with other people with interest in VR.

In terms of testing on VR, there is currently not a module about this, but they do explain many things about performance, VR and what a good VR application should look like, so I believe this content is covered across the course.

Where should I start if I want to learn more about VR?

First of all, I think you can do this course for free if you don’t mind not having the degree (you cannot access the evaluations). That could be a good starting point and you could always join for the assessments after, which might save you a bit of time and money.

However, I’d say that the best way to get started is to actually try a device and try some apps. In Android you can download the ‘cardboard’ app and expeditions. Also, you can look for VR apps or games in the phone store (whichever your phone’s OS). Another way could be checking in steam (with a more expensive device), youtube or even in github to see someone’s code. For example, you can check out mine.

Last but not least, you can also install unity as it has an emulator that might give you an idea on how the world would look like and try to start playing around. There is plenty of documentation about it. Another good tool to check out is unreal, you don’t need as much development skills with this one.

What next?

So, you have checkout some VR apps and devices. You might even have created some small apps. The next step would be to be able to tell if your apps (or someone else’s) are of good quality (this is a test focused blog, after all).¬† For this, we should have in mind some new considerations for every type of testing, but that’s…well…another story.

Examples of AI applications and how possibly test them

Recently I attended an online crowdchat hosted by ministry of testing about testing AI applications.

The questions were very interesting, but it was hard to think of a right answer for all AI applications, as this is a very broad field. Explaining it over twitter would be confusing, so I thought I may as well create a post giving some examples.

Kudos to someone on Twitter that mentioned supervised and unsupervised learning at the end of the chat. I was very sleepy at the time (the chat started at 4am my time) so I was not able to find his tweet in the morning to vote for it. I think that we could understand better the types of AI applications that we could have if we divide them in supervised vs unsupervised. More information here.

Supervised learning examples

The idea behind it is easy to understand: These applications have a phase of learning in which we keep feeding them with data and rewarding them if they produce a correct result, while punishing them when they don’t until the produced results match the expected results within a threshold. (In other words, until we are happy with the results).

Let’s ignore for now the exact ways in which we can punish or reward a machine and just focus on the general idea.

After this learning phase, we generally just use the application and no more learning takes place. We “turn off” the learning. This is called inference phase. Not all the applications have inference phase; sometimes we want them to keep learning from the users, but this can turn out to be problematic, as we will see further on.

I think these are the easiest AI applications to test functionally speaking, as we just need to pass new data and check the results obtained against the expected. Apart from this, they behave just like any other application and we can also go through the other types of testing without many changes (performance, security, system..)


Imagine for example a¬†number plate recognition system – once the system learns how to recognize the numbers in the license plate, you don’t have to keep training it. The application can use the learned patterns to verify the new number plates.

There are many tests we could think of here, without caring for how the application gets the results: try with characters that have strange typography (if allowed in the country), tilt the number plate, check the boundary in distance from the vehicle…

An OCR (optical character recognition) application could also be done with this technique. In fact, the number plate recognition system could be considered as a specific type of OCR.

Digital personal assistance (Cortana, Siri, Alexa…):

Quite common nowadays, they help you find out information using voice commands. They could also use supervised learning (although, I believe the right classification for them would be “semi-supervised learning”, but let’s think of them as just supervised for the sake of the example). However, in this case the application keeps learning from the users. It stays in the learning phase.

The reason they can ‘safely’ do this it is because they collect data from the users but not their direct input in whether the result was to be penalized or rewarded. An example of application getting direct input from the user to keep learning would be a chatbot that guesses something and asks if that guess was correct. This could be easily tricked by dishonest users.

Applications that keep learning are much trickier to test, even functionally, as if we pass wrong inputs to test, they will learn wrong. If I had to test one of these, I would use a copy of the state of each iteration we would like to test in an isolated environment, so we don’t break the acquired good learning. For performance testing it would be best to use valid data, to ensure the learning process continues well.

If anybody is concerned about AI gaining consciousness, this type of applications would be the problematic one, as they could be learning things we are not aware of depending on the power that the programmer and the user gave them and the data they are able to collect. This brings up the question: Should testers be responsible to test consciousness?

Unsupervised learning examples

The key of these applications is to discover relationships on the data without direct penalization or reward. They are very useful when we are not sure of what the output should be, and to discover things that we would not naturally think of being related.

There are two types: Clustering (when the system discovers groupings in data) and association (for discovering rules describing data). I won’t go deep on them in this post, as it is a lot of information as it is.

Tailored content-advertising (Amazon, Netflix, Google…)

These apps want to be able to predict what the customers that bought something would be interested on next. In fact, digital personal assistance tools could also use this data to help you find what you want (that’s why I mentioned before they should be classified as ‘semi-supervised’ learning). I cannot think of any ways of testing this except checking on the impact on the sales after the application is in place, but this could potentially be subjective to chance or other factors not related with the application itself.

Apart from that, the test of the application should be the same as we already do with non-AI applications (not just the results, but how the user inputs the data and how the application responds and shows back the data…) Imagine this as a feature of a bigger product, all the other features would also need to be tested as well.

The moral impact of these applications, in my opinion, is that at some point they might be telling you (as a user) what you want, even before you know you wanted it.

What could possibly go wrong?

What should we be careful about in AI that might not need so much attention in other  apps?

Things could go very wrong if we leave apps learning constantly and we leave the users to provide the penalization or rewards. You probably have heard of applications such as image recognition systems and chatbots becoming racists and sexists. Sometimes this is because the test data given to the application is biased, but it could also be because of trolls playing around with the application in unexpected ways and giving rewards when the application is wrong.

Also leaving apps learning on their own is not the best idea, as we do not control what they are actually learning, as mentioned before.

If you are interested, I found an article with some more examples of issues with AI applications here.

What else have you got?

Below is a list of readings that I found very interesting while researching for this post (a couple of the links are about video games and AI):

How “hello neighbor” game’s AI works

AI predicting coding mistakes before developers make them

Examples of AI

Game examples of AI

How would you test these applications?

What do you think about the moral connotations?

If used well, AI could be harmless and powerful. In fact, it could also be a good tool that we could use for automating our testing, but that’s…well…another story.

Interviewing your interviewer (17 tips)

This topic is probably not only for testers, but, since I have been dealing with it recently, I thought some people might find it interesting. Also, I know, I owe you a couple of other posts¬†(I’m working on them, but I am also moving houses and I have limited time to write right now)

I have been told that I ask good questions at the end of the interviews, so I’d like to share my system in case someone else finds it useful. Tip: the important thing is not to ask questions to impress your interviewer, but to use this time frame to find out things about the job and the company.

I usually get very nervous when I do interviews, even though I have interviewed people myself as well. I find, that a good trick for me not to get so nervous, is to think of the process as a two-ways interview, in which you are also interviewing the company to verify if you really want to work in there.

I know this might be hard to take, especially for beginners: “How would I be interviewing a company that I want to work for? I just want the job, if I didn’t like the company I would not have applied for it.” However, it is important to know as much as possible about the job you are about to be doing for a good while. That is why it is crucial that you ask as many questions as you can in order to understand how they work in that particular team and what is expected of you.

Another point, if you can, is to double check the answers with the interviewer’s reaction to the question. I mean, they are supposed to say good things about the company… imagine how bad they would look if the candidate says something like “well, I need to drop my application because the interviewer told me this is an awful place to work for”. But, if you are paying enough attention, you can see some reactions such as long pauses or struggles, that could lead you to believe that they did not feel comfortable with the question or they are trying to sugar coat their answers.

By now, you are probably thinking that this could be a good advise, but you would like to see actual examples of these questions. I owe you a couple of code samples by now, so I won’t let you down on this one. Be careful, some of them might be in the job description, and asking them might show little research and be so annoying for the interviewer as when they ask you to walk them through your CV (which usually means they have not bothered to read it fully). Below some examples of things you might need to know before joining a company (note, when I do an interview these come naturally to me, it depends on the specific job, these are general examples that I can think of right now):

  1. What process are they following? (Agile, waterfall…)
  2. Would you be joining the team of the interviewer or a different one?
  3. How would you relate to the interviewer in the company?
  4. What technology are they using? (The description usually would mention one or two, but you might ask what would be the biggest used, or for a technology that is not in the description, for example, what they use for source control)
  5. Do they do code reviews?
  6. What’s the relationship between the developers and testers? Do they sit together? Share code? Do common code reviews?
  7. How often do the interviewer…? (meet clients, have team meetings, create new features, spend in paperwork such as performance review…)
  8. How long are the springs? (if using agile)
  9. How many times did the interviewer use *insert benefit* this month?
  10. How do they do the performance reviews? How do they measure performance?
  11. What are they expecting of the candidate?
  12. Is there a possibility of *insert benefit*? (getting bonus, stock, gym membership, learning expenses… this depends on what you are looking for in the company)

Some extra tips:

  1. Try to ask the right questions for the right interview: technical interviewers might not know the answer to an hr questions (for example benefits) and hr people might not have an answer for technical questions (for example technologies they use). You might be wasting their time and not getting your answer anyways, so it is better to save the questions for the right round. (Be sure to learn about the rounds to know when to ask what)
  2. If you can, try to say them in a way that sounds a bit more personal for the interviewer, they are more likely to give you honest answers if you are asking for their opinions than for the company’s protocols. For example, the style of number 9 is more personal than number 12 for knowing about benefits. While number 9 gives you information about the actual behaviour of your co-workers and the non-spoken politics in the company, number 12 can give you room to negotiate a particular benefit that is not usually given (you can use this style with hr).
  3. I have said this already, but: don’t ask them for the sake of asking questions. Think about what it is not clear to you ahead of time and take a pen and paper next to you when you ask them to write down the answers. This can help you not to repeat yourself and to remember everything at the end of the process. It might be something you can negotiate or it might be something for you to discard the company (or the specific team). This does not only give you valuable information but puts you in a more powerful and confident position when doing an interview rather than feeling under test.
  4. Don’t get angry or depressed if you don’t get the job: sometimes it’s just a matter of being lucky and getting an interviewer that connects better with you. Sometimes a company might offer different positions or to work for teams that use different technologies that might be more aligned with your experience. And above it all: if your interviewer is pushing you back for not having the exact same expertise as him/her, you are probably better off not working with that person anyways. I think the trick for a company to work well is to have people with different set of expertise: they might not know something with the same depth as you do, but they might know a lot about something else and you both can learn from each other.
  5. Keep trying and practising: doing interviews might be extenuating but, with enough practice and asking the right questions, sooner or later, you’ll get just the job you want.

Let me know in the comments if you can think of other good questions to ask and let me know if you like these sort of posts about the interview process. I could tell more about it, but that’s… well… another story.



Automating the automation: Dealing with dynamic objects IDs

As testers, we sometimes find that developers don’t take testing into account while writing the system and design things that are very difficult for us to test. I’ve some experiences about it that I would like to share in case they help or inspire you.

Localised ID’s

A developer on my team was once tired of redeploying many times to rename objects because of business decisions. He decided to put into place a system to store the objects so people from localisation and internationalisation could change the text themselves without need of redeployment from his side.

It sounds like a great idea, but the issue was that the id’s were also on that table, and the people that were on charge of translating the text, would also translate those ID’s without understanding what they were for.

What was before me, was a set of localised pages that “most of the times” would work.

In this case, the solution I did was to check the developer’s code to understand how he was retrieving those objects and do the same from my code.

Automatic object creation

Another case of dynamic objects Id’s that I’ve seen is when the developers would create an automatic number of items dynamically on the page. In this case, the objects were created always with id’s that didn’t really identify what object they were, but would follow an structure.

For example, if they populate a list of users based on an input, each of them could have an id on the sort of “id_1, id_2, id_3…” (at least they had id’s).

Before me, they were doing manual tests because “it was not something we could automate”.

For this case, what I did was searching for id’s in the page. Something like this:

boolean caseExit = false;

int i=0;

while (!caseExit)


if (getObject("ID_" + i++).exits)

// do something


caseExit = true;


The “do something” part could be many things.¬†For example, we could check that all the users had a certain property.

If your “exists” throws an exception you might need a try-catch instead of if statement in here.

An important note: do this if you are not able to retrieve the objects somehow else. For example, if what you have is a table you can easily access the different rows as long as the table has an id (you don’t need ID per row).¬†It could also be similar if this is an html list.

The problem is when you have a serie of new unrelated objects. Moreover, if this is the case for all the objects in the page (they auto populate them all somehow), maybe auto-creating the page would help better for the case (explained on my previous post).

Angular/react dynamism

With introduction of JIT (a great article explaining here: the browsers could start handling more dynamism in their websites. AngularJS (insert increasing version number here), ReactJS or VueJS are examples of frameworks that allow for this to happen.

But, as these frameworks started to get popular, some other tools were also created that would allow us to deal with this new dynamism. For example, AngularJS team created Karma, which is a NodeJS application that allows you to input your tests in the command line and aligns well with Jasmine and others tools for testing.

For end to end, you could check tools like protractor, nightwatchjs and testcafe.

There are many frameworks, extensions and customisations in the open source community. They are starting to move almost as fast as the front end tools (The frustration on front end is very nicely explained in this post: )

Each of them would be tailored for a particular case scenario, so if you are building a framework you need to do a good research first, and ask many questions to your team.

POM for dynamic objects

Many people start forgetting about page object design pattern when they start automating on dynamic objects. However I would recommend you still incorporate it as much as you can because it really helps maintaining a clean code and reducing the time to write it.

Even if you have a lot of tests, you usually don’t have the time resources to execute every single one of them. For this, you need to decide what test to run, and this could also be a difficult, repetitive and automate-able process. But that’s…well…another story.

Automating the automation

Have you ever find yourself writing the exact same basic tests for certain objects over and over again? With the only difference on the id or path or even the element retrieval?

Wouldn’t it be nice to have some way of doing this bit faster?¬†Automation is about making your computer do repetitive tasks for you, and this can be applied to everything, including, yes, writing code.

The process to automation is as follows:

  1. Identify repetitive tasks
  2. Write code that would do these tasks for you
  3. Identify when the code needs to be executed
  4. Execute the code or automate the execution

In order to give an example or something being repetitive during automation, I would like to introduce the page object model. If you already know about this, maybe you should skip the next section.

Page object model

The page object, in short, it’s a model for organising functional testing classes and objects so the code is cleaner and easier to modify. These sort of models are also known as design patterns (note to any developer reading this: yes,¬†there are design patterns for testing and you should be using them!).

There is plenty of information about POM (page object model), starting on selenium website (, so I am just going to summarise it here.

In POM, we have (at least, depending on the implementation) two different types of classes:

  1. A class (page class) that would gather all the information of the objects that we need from a website’s page (for example, a button or a text box) and micro-methods to preform common tasks (such as click, type, select, verify existence…). If you are very newbie, just open your browser’s developer mode (usually f12 does it) and using the selector hover over the website to see the objects that it¬†has and their associated values.
  2. Another class (model class) would implement the more sophisticated methods (test cases) using the objects and methods exposed by our page class.

In this way, if the website changes layouts it would be easier to retrieve the objects again without the need of finding every instance of that object throughout the code.

1. Identify the repetitive tasks

So, you need to extract some of the elements on a website page, and add small known methods… We have found our repetitive tasks!

However, our job is not done here. There are still many things to take into account for automation:

  1. The tools: What tools are the developers using? What programming language? And how are we going to design the system in respect to this? We should, within possible, try to align with the development tools, but sometimes this is not the best choice. For example, imagine that developers use both javascript and ruby to build a website, but that you have a team full of knowledgeable test engineers experienced in Java, shall we train them and align with the developers or take advantage of their current skills? This would have to be taken case by case.
  2. Dynamic programming: Would we need to extend our framework to support elements that would be refreshed in the screen without fully re-loading the website? (Nowadays, you most likely would!)
  3. Number of elements/iframes: If we have a lot of iframes, or elements in the website (such as many nested divs), but we only need to access certain elements, we might prefer to write an automated solution that allows us to input the elements that we want. However, it could be possible that we want to define everything on a page automatically, because that takes away one manual step while keeping a reasonable load.

2. Write code that does the tasks for you

To give an example and in order to simplify things, let’s say that we have decided to create a solution in Java, that there is no dynamic loading and that we are going to say which elements and properties we want rather than getting them all.

The idea of the code is as follows:

Allow input of a list of elements, the type, the selector type and the selector for each of them. We could use a csv file for this, for example:

name= loginbox, type=input, selector=id, id=loginbox;
name= password, type=input, selector=xpath, id=…;
name= loginButton, type=button, selector=name, id=loginButton;
name= textSuccess, type=textBox, selector=text, id=success;

  1. For each of the lines on the input file, create an object with the name and selector given.
  2. For each of the lines on the input file, create a method for the object Type:
    1. For input: type method
    2. For button/href: click method
    3. For textBox: method to verify test
    4. For all: exist method

It would look something like this:

// retrieval of the fileLines left out for exemplification
for (Object o : fileLines) {

switch(o.type) {

case "input":

toPrintInPageClass += "WebElement " + + " = driver.findElement(By." + o.selector+ "(\"" + + "\"));\n";

toPrintInPageClass += "void " + + "_type(string toType) { \n\t" + + ".sendKeys(toType); \n}";


case "button":

...... (you should have gotten the idea now)

This should take less than an hour to build, but after that, every page would be built in no time and the code would be less prone to errors as opposed to copy-pasting the same code over and over again. (You write one class as opposed to one per page)

An additional benefit is that if you have a manual tester in the team, now you can assign him or her the definition of the inputs and execution of the code. And you just made that person able to “program” with this “very high level programming language”.

Bonus: After this is built, we can create another class that would extract the items from the website into the input file for this class. That way we can retrieve all the elements in one go without human intervention.

3. Identify when the code needs to be executed

What happens if a developer changes the website and adds an element? Shall we execute the whole thing again or just add manually the missing element?

Even if it is tempting to add the missing element manually, I would suggest to add it to the input file, otherwise if someone decides to execute this code, your element would be missed. It is likely to still be faster to execute the code than to add an element manually.

But what if it is not? What if we have so many elements at the moment than executing the code can take longer than adding just one more?

I would still run the code rather than add elements manually, because it could as well be that some of those elements do not exist anymore. But if it is only one quick change, please remember to change the input file too.

As an addition, we could add into the code functionality to modify the class already created rather than create a new one, but I’d say this could be a lot of overhead for the benefit that you can get out of it.

4. Execute the code or automate the execution

Lastly, especially if you have the object retrieval automated too, you might want to automate the execution. For example, you can say to the computer (using a cron file could be a way): run this code every evening at 8pm. Or once a week… once a month… That way you could “completely” forget about the page definition side of the POM and just focus on the functionality.

Alternatively, if you have a way of retrieving the objects from the website, you could check that the original input is the same one as the newly generated and only execute the page class creation if they are different. That should be faster to run and it would allow you to change the actual code only when required.

However, be careful with this approaches, because you might miss when you need to add new functionality.

This is quite common in automation: you need to keep an eye on it. After it is built, it usually needs maintenance and refactoring. The better built, the less maintenance, but that does not mean 0 maintenance.


Many sources would recommend to make short and simple tests, with the idea of identifying the failing parts easily and clearly. Nonetheless, sometimes you can spend longer in creating these simple tests than in actually testing the parts that are likely to fail, so the right balance is important.

What we’ve looked at today would help creating many¬†simple tests, but you still should be careful not to over-test things as sometimes it could be too expensive or not really needed.

On the other hand, this could be a difficult task to do if we find with dynamically created objects or/and dynamically assigned id’s/properties. There are ways of dealing with these as well, but that’s…well…another story.

My views in the future of testing

As you might know by now from my previous posts, ¬†I’ve always been between testing and developing.

Every company is different and every person in the team is different. Some developers highly respect testing, write tests or at least like to learn to think like testers. There are developers that use testers as a shield against management’s disappointment when something goes wrong in production.

Some testers know how to code and are interested in new languages, technologies, systems… others might know some programming but just enough¬†so they can stay in a comfortable job (this could apply to the devs too). Others are great testers¬†although they do not know how to program (and that should not be an issue or be taken lightly by the rest of the team).

I have noticed a lot of confusion and open interpretations on the testing side of development and I have seen many movements on that side: I have seen some companies moving from QA to SDETs, and others moving from SDETs to Software engineers. It seems like this is the new fashion, the process to follow, developers to do both dev and test tasks (and operations as well, if possible…).

I have been concerned, to be honest, that I might end up in pure development and I would be fully extincted.. I felt as endangered as my lynx specie is.

The introduction of TDD and then of BDD, makes companies ignore other types of¬†testing (maybe with¬†exception of security) in favour of deploying earlier and faster, thus leaving the end to end ‘testing’ directly to the users.

However, I think this is not the right approach. Don’t get me wrong, I was already developing and testing, I would have ‘no issues’ moving with this current. But at the end of the day, if nobody is in charge of the quality, why would anybody care about it?

If previous testers are either gone or converted to developing first and thinking about quality second.. at some point, after hiring more and move developers and promoting thinking about speed of development first, who is going to think about quality? Who will have the knowledge to make a point or call out missing scenarios?

This might as well be a cyclic fashion, and at some point companies would be needing a test expert. Someone that cares about quality and creates integration and system testing, checks that the unit tests are right, verifies which tests are going to be run in the different builds, creates other types of testing, researches about testing, architect solutions for automation… Or at minimum someone that can train the developers to check for the right things and ensures the right testing happens.

How can you get test experts if there are no testers anymore? At the moment, the answer is: from other companies that are still using testers… but what if there are no such companies anymore?

I’ve heard complaints about how hard is to find testers that also program or have development qualities. Or developers that are OK being called testers and undertaking tasks in the test system. Maybe this¬†post¬†helps someone¬†understand¬†the paradox.

So, if we don’t find testers.. is it ethic/safe to deploy¬†without comprehensive end to end and allow the¬†users¬†to report the issues in order to speed up development? To me, it is not, although I can understand where this comes from and that¬†in¬†some environments it’s very hard and costly to find alternatives.

Will this be the new quality assurance culture? I don’t think so, but that doesn’t mean that the things will go back to the way they were.

Should I be scared of losing my job? Well, that highly depends on your company, so I cannot answer that in an easy way.

What can I do to make sure I will stand out? I’d say, try to make yourself valuable, just as with any job. And I do not mean writing spaghetti code, (although high respect to the pastafarians, arr!) I mean knowledge wise.

I think there is much more to come. Research to be done. New ways of automating, new processes, development,¬†test expertise …

And that’s why I think the future of testing is uncertain, but it will be different to what we have known until now. It has started to change and I think we better take on that boat and participate in the change that let us be driven by it.

Where to start? We should start by automating everything, including the automation. But that would be… well… a different story!

Between two rivers

As a developer, I often find myself stuck in a problem and I rarely¬†get the freedom to switch my mind to a different¬†task¬†until I¬†solved the first issue. But I need to be able to switch tasks, that’s how my mind works.

I read somewhere that this is the trick to creativity: just do something else that is more automatic and then go back to the hard problem. While only developing, I find it¬†hard to work on this ‘all or nothing’ way, it does not feel like I am creating, it feels like I’m forced into making the features.

Testing, for most companies I worked for, was at the exact same technical + programming level as the developer role. By this I mean: you needed to be a developer if you wanted to get the position and you get the same interviews.

At first, as tester, I felt unchallenged, as if I was just repeating tasks…and I do not mean manual testing, writing some tests automation could be repetitive as well. But that was until I learned that I could not only automate the tests, but also the processes. So I get more job done faster! I could do things in parallel, running tests that will show my results while writing code that will clear up my to do list…¬†That’s one of the reasons that I love it, besides the fact that you get to think out of the box and create new ways of solving and proving issues.

If you are curious about different roles across the two disciplines, here are the names of the roles I’ve done and what type of work they involved:

  1. Software developer: This is used as a generic term for someone that can write code (programs) and can also design technically the new features (sometimes with the help/agreement of other team members). There are many different types of developers and the number of positions are increasing and evolving with the years: front end, back end, full stack, devops, mobile, VR… And now you can find people really specialized in a particular language, so if you are starting on a position, make sure you like that language.
  2. System verification tester: In my case, it was similar to software developer, only that instead of working with databases, back end, front end or applications, I was working on automation (and so with a bit of it all as well). You also need to be able to think out of the box and come up with tests that would help demonstrating quality. In this position, I, in particular, did not get to talk a lot with the developers of the system we were verifying, but it was common to check with the customers to make sure their quality criteria was met. There was also a degree of performance testing there. Basically, we were making sure the system was working across different platforms and specifications by writing code to check it.
  3. SDET (software developer engineer in test). I really like this role, even thought it sounds as if¬†I you are a ‘provisional’ developer, rather than a developer that works in the test side. I like that it has the word ‘engineer’ on it, which I deserve (I have two engineering degrees). In here, SDETs work in the same sort of things as the SDEs. ¬†The only difference would be that while the SDEs work in making the code for the actual features, SDETs work in making the tests for those features and verifying they worked. Code reviews were done across disciplines making everybody familiar with all the code.
  4. Software engineer: This is a recent enough title. If you see this, it means that in the company the developers also do the testing, usually switching between the two roles, or as part of BDD or TDD and with faster releases. I like this role as well, although quality tend to get lower priority in favour of faster releases and I particularly believe it is better to have someone in charge of quality so it does not get forgotten.
  5. Software QA lead: ‘Developer’ and ‘engineer’ words are¬†out of this name, but, I still got to do some degree of developing when I had this title. However, not as much as I wanted to get in this particular position, but I suppose that depends on your career goals and on the opportunities on the particular company to meet them. I did enjoy the leading part though, more below.
  6. Software engineer lead: Same as number 4 but also leading. I am mentioning it because I had the wrong assumption, when I was a younger lynx, that the leaders did not get to do coding anymore. I am expected to do as much as the others, but I also have other leading tasks and have to keep an eye on the team. It is hard, but also quite rewarding because you get to help others and inspire them.

I want to get the ‘developer’ label as little as¬†the ‘tester’ one. I’m neither. I’m both.

Especially when you start labeling developers by their expertise. Could I be a front end developer? I could, but I’m not really. A back end? Even less… I’m sort of a ‘all in one’ and ‘none of the above’ at the same time.

I find it interesting that the developer types are becoming new positions, while some companies are moving away from the SDET title (which¬†it’s a developer type).

Dev and test positions keep evolving and changing across companies. How would testing be done in the future?¬†That would be… well…a different story.